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Old 21-09-2004   #1 (permalink)
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Talking Ryano's "Project Trading Post" - Tell him he's dreaming!

As some of you would know I have been on a never ending quest for performance for most of this year, with my truck only spending about 3 months on the road all year.

Originally I spent quite a bit of money to get ready to turbo my standard V6, but after installing engine management and getting a dodgy tune my V6 has died. So I've just about sold most of the turbo stuff off as the plan has now changed to dropping in a Lexus 4.0l V8 (1UZ-FE).

The stats on these motors are amazing, they put most V8's to shame with how strong they are. Here is a bit of a history write up about the 1UZ.
http://www.itplanet.net.au/Cressida/1UZ_history.htm

I have decieded to scrap the WOLF engine management and run the 1UZ on the std. ECU. The main reason for this is you get a motor that runs like factory as soon as you hook everything up. With engine management it's a long and expensive process to get a it running like a factory running engine.

The main problem with running a Std. ECU is with the vehickles that the 1UZ's come out of the whole cars wiring system is built into the engine loom. Which can be a real pain to try and sort out what's what. But a company in Brisbane called Venom will modify the loom so all you have to do is supply power, and hook up some fuel pump wires etc... then turn the key. It's cost $700 for venom to do this, but it is deffinetly money well spent, and will look a lot neater in the end.

So heres the costs so far.
$1200 Front Sump 1UZ-FE V8 from Venom
(includes AC Comp, Starter, Alt etc....)
(Hopefully the front sump will fit with no sump modifcations, the 2" bodylift will also help this)
$1000 Crown ECU and Modified Loom from Venom
$350 for Air Flow Meter and Igniters.
$330 flywheel from Venom (my std. V6 Daikin Safari Clutch will bolt to this)
$550 Bellhousing, Pilot Bearing & Pivot Ball from Dellows Automotive (to mate to my std. 5speed manual)
$85 Clutch Fork & Clip from Dellows
$25 Push Rod (adjustable) from Dellows
$85 Thrust Race and Carrier from Dellows

Which totals $3295 for a running motor bolted up to my std. gearbox

I should have all the stuff from Dellows next week some time, and I'll pick up the motor, loom etc.. in about 2 weeks (waiting for some funds). But venom is currently setting the loom up and is going to test run my engine to make sure it's all ok.

The Upcoming Costs

$100approx. to get my clutch pressure tested and maybe modified for more pressure by Direct Clutches
$500 for Widowmaker Race Egines, to install the V8 and Gearbox and make custom engine mounts and modify the gearbox crossmember.
$200 Exhuast Modiciations - I already have a 3" mandrel exhaust with a 3" Cat, but I will need to get it modified to suit the V8.
$??? A thermo fan that will fit as there isn't much room.
$70 Modification Plate
Carton of XXXX for my mate to modify my Radiator
$??? powersteering and aircon hookup.

I'm hoping to have it finished for under $5000. I attach pics and do more writeups as it comes along.

So the plans for this weekend are to install my new Ball joint lift which will increase the suspension lift on the 4Runner to 3". Drop my 3" bodylift back to 2" (legal reasons, bugger). Then start to remove my motor, gearbox etc.. and clean up the engine bay.
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Default Re:Twisty's 1UZFE V8 4Runner Conversion

Good Stuff Twisty ;D I look foward to the up dates ;D

Are there any legal problems with this conversion?

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Nah not really, it's possible to still go a bit bigger in capacity and be legal but I can't remember how big the egineer said, think it might be 5.0L. Emission is the biggest part of the approval. All emission controls that are on my truck now have to remain in place, and any extra emissions that the V8 has, needs to be in place too. Which is no real drama.

The engineer took a look at my truck and said "I can see that your bodylift is illegal, and your rims and tyres are too" and I was crapping myself thinking it would have to be stock to get approved. But then it said that doesn't effect the approval at all as he's not worried about that stuff. As long as the installtion is neat and there is no dodgy stuff, and all emission stuff is met, it's fine.

But since a 3" bodylift is illegal in QLD I'm going to drop that back to 2" so atleast I know the engine fits with a legal bodylift. But I'm lifted my suspension to make up for the lost height. The 3" bodylift will probably go back in next time i need tyres so I can stick some 35" rubber on it.

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Bastard.......................................
I'm not jealous........ noooooooooo not me............
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sounds good Dave, look forward to seeing the pics.
 
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[quote author=Nemesis link=board=5;threadid=4714;start=0#msg74508 date=1095727493]
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I'm not jealous........ noooooooooo not me............
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It's ok Bryan, just sell that XR8 Ute of yours and bite the bullet and do it, it's only money ;D
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[quote author=twisty_toy94 link=board=5;threadid=4714;start=0#msg74527 date=1095733805]
[quote author=Nemesis link=board=5;threadid=4714;start=0#msg74508 date=1095727493]
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I'm not jealous........ noooooooooo not me............
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It's ok Bryan, just sell that XR8 Ute of yours and bite the bullet and do it, it's only money ;D
[/quote]or rip the motor out of it and stick it in the 4 runner ;D
 
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[quote author=hi-luxmadness link=board=5;threadid=4714;start=0#msg74529 date=1095735321]
or rip the motor out of it and stick it in the 4 runner ;D
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LMAO, nice idea HiluxMad!! ;D
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Twisty you need to move to Tas for a couple of months.Down here you can run up to a 4.4 litre engine in a hilux/4runner,and the only extra requirement is heavy duty shocks front and rear,then take it along to your local transport dep approved inspection station and they just do a full check to basically see if the car is roadworthy,ie,engine mounts,tyres,headlights etc.when i had mine done all they wanted changed was the fuel filter moved{too close to exhaust manifold} and do my swivel hub bearings{on my list anyway,just moved the job forward a bit}.
$1000 bucks for V8 conversion,$30 for inspection and an extra $21 to upgrade from 4cyl to V8 rego,too easy
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According to a bloke I know the 5l holden motor is an accepted swap without rake upgrades, you just have to comply to emmisions standards for the motor or car , whichever is better and have it blue plated. By the way dave is the v6 buggered, repairable, still avaliable, how much ect.

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The V6 is rebuildable, at the moment it has very low compression in No.6 but thats as far as I've looked into exactly whats wrong. It still does drive but runs pretty crappy and is down on power.

I'm open to offers for the V6 complete with Bellhousing, ECU, Clutch, Engine Mounts etc...not too sure what it'd be worth.

I was going to look into wrecking the motor as I'd probably get more money that way, but it'd be easier to sell the whole lot.

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Sounds very interesting putting the V8 in . I wonder if it would work with a 90 series Prado 8)?? 8)

I have a 98 model RV Prado with the slightly underpowered 2.7L petrol motor :-[. This is a fantastic little motor, BUT would be a lot better in a 1200kg car rather than a close to 2 Tonne 4wd. Have often wondered about transplanting the V6 from a likeminded Prado, but your ideas on the V8 sounds very good .

Let us know how you go, am very interested to see the outcome or pitfalls that you may come up against.

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Good to see its all underway twisty look forward to seeing you on the road round here in the not too distant future. What have you been driving whilst the 4runners been off the road ???
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[quote author=BundyMonkey link=board=5;threadid=4714;start=0#msg74864 date=1095895066]
Good to see its all underway twisty look forward to seeing you on the road round here in the not too distant future. What have you been driving whilst the 4runners been off the road ???
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Yeah I can't wait!!

I've been driving the missus's lowlux when she's not using it and also riding my Kick Arse Mountain Bike to work most days. I bought from KMart for $130, bargain! It has Suspension front and rear ang all the tricky stuff!!
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[quote author=goldy link=board=5;threadid=4714;start=0#msg74856 date=1095893788]
Twisty
Sounds very interesting putting the V8 in . I wonder if it would work with a 90 series Prado 8)?? 8)
I have a 98 model RV Prado with the slightly underpowered 2.7L petrol motor :-[. This is a fantastic little motor, BUT would be a lot better in a 1200kg car rather than a close to 2 Tonne 4wd. Have often wondered about transplanting the V6 from a likeminded Prado, but your ideas on the V8 sounds very good .
Let us know how you go, am very interested to see the outcome or pitfalls that you may come up against.
Cheers
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A 1UZ would be very nice under the bonnet of the prado, and probbaly wouldn't cost that much as you'd be able to get decent money for your motor. A V6 transplant from another prado could almost be more expensive than a V8.

I wonder if anyone has dropped one in a Prado yet??



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[quote author=twisty_toy94 link=board=5;threadid=4714;start=0#msg74873 date=1095898881]
[quote author=BundyMonkey link=board=5;threadid=4714;start=0#msg74864 date=1095895066]
Good to see its all underway twisty look forward to seeing you on the road round here in the not too distant future. What have you been driving whilst the 4runners been off the road ???
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Yeah I can't wait!!

I've been driving the missus's lowlux when she's not using it and also riding my Kick Arse Mountain Bike to work most days. I bought from KMart for $130, bargain! It has Suspension front and rear ang all the tricky stuff!!
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Lucky for you the weather has been so good with not much rain
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I'll give ya a couple of bottles of bundy rum for it other than that i got no idea. give us a bell
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Saw one of those motors in an unlimited jet sprint boat a few years ago, twin superchargers, water to air intercooler,aftermarket pistons ,kawasaki motorbike valve springs and twin predator carbs being the only mods. Good for over 1000hp with the standard crank.
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[quote author=kitch76 link=board=5;threadid=4714;start=0#msg74982 date=1095934469]
I'll give ya a couple of bottles of bundy rum for it other than that i got no idea. give us a bell
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That's about what I thought, maybe $200.

Kinda need to get the heads off and actually see what the damage is.

If ya keen we can sort something out.
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I'll be up in a couple of weeks, if you are back in time from ashleys opening I'll catch up with you before I head home
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