Got a 100k what should I buy?

[v6hilux]

"Got a 100k what should I buy?"

Investment property and go trekking in a cheap reliable used rig, using the tax deductible rental income to finance your dream!

[boobook]

Originally Posted by v6hilux

"Got a 100k what should I buy?"

Investment property and go trekking in a cheap reliable used rig, using the tax deductible rental income to finance your dream!

Ahh... can you please explain how you get tax deductable rental income.

[cac]

as i understand it...the tax deductions are because of the expenses you pay out on the property....like the interest and repayments on the mortgage and the cost of upkeep on the property

any actual "profit" you have left over is taxed as per normal...the trick with rentals is that while you are working, you balance the rent against the expenses so you don't pay extra tax, and it doesn't take any money out of your pocket...and by the time you retire, you have the rental paid off...and have a nice supplement to your super

[Andy_b]

Originally Posted by boobook

You asked for it

Survey 1
http://www.whatcar.com/NonCar/13105544635.jpg

Claims per 100 vehicles
Toyota (3rd) 12.9 Reliability rating 5 stars
Nissan (4th) 13.3 Reliability rating 5 stars
Landrover (last) 45.4 Reliability rating 1 star

Survey 2
Caradvice.com.au
Top 10 Reliable Brands &raquo Australian Car Advice | News Blog

Faults per 100 vehicles
Toyota (3rd) 15.78
Nissan (7th) 18.86
Landrover (second last) 44.21

Survey 3
MSN Cars advice
Consumer Reports Article - MSN Autos

"
Our 2006 Annual Car Reliability Survey, the largest of its kind, gathered responses on about 1.3 million vehicles from Consumer Reports and ConsumerReports.org subscribers. These results underpin the most comprehensive reliability data you will find anywhere. "

Most reliable
LARGE SUVS: Toyota Land Cruiser
Least Reliable
MIDSIZED SUVS: Mercedes-Benz M-Class*, Land Rover LR3 (V8),

See a Pattern emerging, nearly 1 in 2 Landrovers has a fault.

I wasnt going to chirp in, but with the challlenge to show the statistics, there it is, and there are lots more. I could not find one that was reversed or even close. As many have said on this forum, if you havent owned a LR then you aren't qualified to comment. Well guess what, these are surveys of OWNERS.

I've owned a LandRover Discovery, and now I drive a prado. The Disco was more comfortable, and had great visibility, and had a certain feel to it. But I hated the engine (V8 auto on LPG), and all the electronic issues.

The prado is slightly less comfortable. But doesn't feel as nice to drive. But it feels nicer to know that it will start everytime, and have no electrical issues.

That's why, I think a Rangie Body, and Suspension. And everything else is replaced, ie motor and gearbox and electronics. And would make a good allroader.

Just think how good a LandRover would be a if the Japanese made it.

Andy

[Unsane]

Originally Posted by Ian Wilkinson

I do think thay may have softened it a little since the bean counters at Toyota knows more 200's will drive kids to school than will see any real 4wd duty.

Comfort and capability will always conflict.

Get a tough truck. New 70 series cruiser.

[boobook]

Originally Posted by cac

as i understand it...the tax deductions are because of the expenses you pay out on the property....like the interest and repayments on the mortgage and the cost of upkeep on the property

any actual "profit" you have left over is taxed as per normal...the trick with rentals is that while you are working, you balance the rent against the expenses so you don't pay extra tax, and it doesn't take any money out of your pocket...and by the time you retire, you have the rental paid off...and have a nice supplement to your super

Exactly. Income is taxable, losses are deductable. There is no scenario I can think of where rental income would be tax deductable. If you have a deduction then you must have less cash to finance your dream because you are losing money. V6hilux, If you know how to get a deduction on income I would be happy to hear it. ( Apart from bulls..t spruking about negative gearing from those property seminars).

[Knx2]

Once again I will state for the purpose of a fluid thread " I DON'T NEED INVESTMENTS , HOUSES OR ANY OTHER FORMS OF WEALTH CREATION" .I need a comfortable capable and reliable 4B for myself my wife and my 4yo son to traverse the remote tracks of Aus and to pull a 3tonne plus boat on tar.

[BigJon]

Originally Posted by boobook

You asked for it

Survey 1
http://www.whatcar.com/NonCar/13105544635.jpg

Claims per 100 vehicles
Toyota (3rd) 12.9 Reliability rating 5 stars
Nissan (4th) 13.3 Reliability rating 5 stars
Landrover (last) 45.4 Reliability rating 1 star

Survey 2
Caradvice.com.au
Top 10 Reliable Brands &raquo Australian Car Advice | News Blog

Faults per 100 vehicles
Toyota (3rd) 15.78
Nissan (7th) 18.86
Landrover (second last) 44.21

Survey 3
MSN Cars advice
Consumer Reports Article - MSN Autos

"
Our 2006 Annual Car Reliability Survey, the largest of its kind, gathered responses on about 1.3 million vehicles from Consumer Reports and ConsumerReports.org subscribers. These results underpin the most comprehensive reliability data you will find anywhere. "

Most reliable
LARGE SUVS: Toyota Land Cruiser
Least Reliable
MIDSIZED SUVS: Mercedes-Benz M-Class*, Land Rover LR3 (V8),

See a Pattern emerging, nearly 1 in 2 Landrovers has a fault.

I wasnt going to chirp in, but with the challlenge to show the statistics, there it is, and there are lots more. I could not find one that was reversed or even close. As many have said on this forum, if you havent owned a LR then you aren't qualified to comment. Well guess what, these are surveys of OWNERS.

Like all statistics, you can't take them on face value.

A fault can be a loose piece of trim, a rattle or squeak, something in the owners imagination, etc. They don't always refer to something serious or debilitating to the vehicle. Perhaps the statisitics show that Land Rover owners are more fussy about having their vehicle perfect and others are happy putting up with minor faults?

Also, that survey is now two years out of date. It won't have any relevance to the current LandCruiser at all and little relevance to current Land Rovers.

[LSE3.9]

You may be right BigJon, Dam lies and statistics. Can be wriggled to present any situatuon in any light you wish. The thing for Knx2 to do is choose the vehicle that he thinks will be the most suitable and reliable. If he's not 100% comfortable or has some doubts on reliablility this will cloud his use of it and destroy both his ownership enjoyment and how/where he uses it. Ownership confidence is everything!

[boobook]

Originally Posted by BigJon

Like all statistics, you can't take them on face value.

A fault can be a loose piece of trim, a rattle or squeak, something in the owners imagination, etc. They don't always refer to something serious or debilitating to the vehicle. Perhaps the statisitics show that Land Rover owners are more fussy about having their vehicle perfect and others are happy putting up with minor faults?

"A fault can be a loose piece of trim, a rattle or squeak, something in the owners imagination, etc",.. or an electrical fault that disables the vehicle, or an oil leak, or fuel pump problems, or airconditioning that doesn't cool, or fires behind the dash, or warning lights / alarms that never go off, or horns that blast for no reason. Yep all pretty minor.

Get real. Or perhaps you just got one of the half of them that actually works :-)

[BigJon]

Originally Posted by boobook

"A fault can be a loose piece of trim, a rattle or squeak, something in the owners imagination, etc",.. or an electrical fault that disables the vehicle, or an oil leak, or fuel pump problems, or airconditioning that doesn't cool, or fires behind the dash, or warning lights / alarms that never go off, or horns that blast for no reason. Yep all pretty minor.

Get real. Or perhaps you just got one of the half of them that actually works :-)

Yes it could be any of the things you mentioned, or maybe it isn't. My point is that statistics like that don't actually give any detail to make them worthwhile.

I never said I have a Disco 3, but I do work in a Dealer and I do have access to plenty of information.

I don't have any personal experience with disabling electrical faults, severe oil leaks (have seen weeps from diff seals), fuel pump issues caused by anything other than crook fuel (see my earlier post), A/C that doesn't cool, dash fires, warning lights / alarms that never go off, or horns that blast for no reason in Discovery 3s.

I would love to see real documented evidence of that sort of failure because as I see it, it is part of my job to know about these things.

What I do see are Discovery 3s being used every day in harsh central Australian conditions that just keep going with no issues at all.

I don't know how real you want me to get. I am not making stuff up here, just laying down my personal experiences, not some claptrap I read on the web, or a mate of a mate of a mate mentioned when pissed by a camp fire.

Incidentallt I came across a post of yours from 27/11/2007 that starts with "I am no expert on Land Rovers"...

Maybe we should leave it at that?

[Rangier Rover]

This Rover bashing thing needs to conclude! Lets face it, You like them or hate them. Those who like them ....enjoy.. Those who don't well.... stick with what you like. If they are indead as bad a you say, I think there owners would not own them for long and become brand bashers to.

[grimbo]

seriously guys stop or there will be some culling of this thread to ring it back on topic. Lets leave this for the intial poster to get the info he wants not to argue off topic etc

[Knx2]

Well all that said I'm off to Perth tomorrow and will post the outcome, I doubt very much I'll return with a vehicle right away. I understand some of the options have quite the waiting list. Thanks Gents for some thought provocing stuff and a little laugh. I'll let you know what I order and the mods done and any dramas that happen along the way. Thanks again for joining me on this adventure. At least you'll get some real time feedback with whatever I choose.

[Rangier Rover]

Originally Posted by Knx2

Well all that said I'm off to Perth tomorrow and will post the outcome, I doubt very much I'll return with a vehicle right away. I understand some of the options have quite the waiting list. Thanks Gents for some thought provocing stuff and a little laugh. I'll let you know what I order and the mods done and any dramas that happen along the way. Thanks again for joining me on this adventure. At least you'll get some real time feedback with whatever I choose.

Best of luck with it. Sounds like you know what you want as far as 4x4 goes. Make sure you do plenty of tyre kicking and test drives. One of them will grow on you! Hopefully most will have demo Models to test. What ever you chose as long as you are happy with it doesnt matter what make it is.
Has been a interesting thread to follow. Cheers RR.

[tempestv8]

Since you are in WA, check this one out:

4WD Wagons (SUVs) For Sale: TOYOTA LANDCRUISER on Trading Post Online


Lexus with 6.5 litre V8 turbo diesel?

MMMMM!!!!!

[TeamFukarwe01]

Don't get blind-sighted by the fact you have $100 K. Get yourself an GU TD6 Patrol. Think about what type of 4bying your going to be doing and want to have a go at, and modify it. Having that extra cash there to do the mods will be money WELL spent (trust me!!). GU Patrols have tuff drive-lines, comfortable interiors and plenty of space. TOP motors.

[dattopimp]

Mate, i was lookin at the ?outlander 4x4 mag the other day? I can't remember which one but they had the new Defender on the back...Thats one sexy piece of equipment! And without all the fancy electronics and crap. Even comes with AC lol. Probably be abit rougher then what you'd like though.
Asked around at work and a few guys have said the new V8 cruiser. Don't need to worry about an engine conversion, you got new car warranty and seem to be a fit the bill alright.

[XJ Mitch]

Why don,t you ask Dr Phil or Oprah,they solve everybody elses problems.

[Guts]

Update?
Have you ordered anything yet?
If so what?